I love both parts of this post. I look forward to sharing them with people who want to understand the subtle differences between these practices. As someone who has practiced Dzogchen for about 20 years I do want to just share my personal experience: separate from the secularization that you mentioned, traditional Dzogchen in the Tibetan Buddhist lineage has none of the trappings that you mentioned. You’re introduced to the nature of mind by a teacher quite directly, and then it’s more about stabilizing that experience through the practice as opposed to trying to “do” anything. Again, that’s just my personal experience, but it also isn’t as rooted in that jock culture you mentioned when offered in it’s original context
Thank you friend, always great hearing your wisdom. I've found Buddhist Dzogchen practitioners and Secular practicioners to be quite different in this regard. Agreed, traditional context is much more robust and this I believe is because the time has been spent on the ethical grounding prior.
I've had this yucky feeling for so long about #5 and it seemed like EVERYONE around me was loving him, referencing him, and buying what he is selling. I feel so seen and glad I am not the only one with this intuitive nudge to question the claims. with deep gratitude!
So helpful to see it all layed out like that!
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Hey! Any recommendations for deeper learning or training for #8? The somatic and trauma practice? Thank you 🙏🏻
I like the work of Judith Blackstone and Willa Blythe Baker of course the Body Keeps a Score is also a popular book on the topic.
Thank you 😇
Dr Peter Levine
I love both parts of this post. I look forward to sharing them with people who want to understand the subtle differences between these practices. As someone who has practiced Dzogchen for about 20 years I do want to just share my personal experience: separate from the secularization that you mentioned, traditional Dzogchen in the Tibetan Buddhist lineage has none of the trappings that you mentioned. You’re introduced to the nature of mind by a teacher quite directly, and then it’s more about stabilizing that experience through the practice as opposed to trying to “do” anything. Again, that’s just my personal experience, but it also isn’t as rooted in that jock culture you mentioned when offered in it’s original context
Thank you friend, always great hearing your wisdom. I've found Buddhist Dzogchen practitioners and Secular practicioners to be quite different in this regard. Agreed, traditional context is much more robust and this I believe is because the time has been spent on the ethical grounding prior.
Hello! Thank you for sharing this! Any recommendations for deeper learning on #6 and #9?
I've had this yucky feeling for so long about #5 and it seemed like EVERYONE around me was loving him, referencing him, and buying what he is selling. I feel so seen and glad I am not the only one with this intuitive nudge to question the claims. with deep gratitude!